His abilities were first triggered when the Scarlet Witch used her . [32][33], "Samael" literally means "Blind God" or "God of the Blind" in Hebrew (.mw-parser-output .script-hebrew,.mw-parser-output .script-Hebr{font-family:"SBL Hebrew","SBL BibLit","Taamey Ashkenaz","Taamey Frank CLM","Frank Ruehl CLM","Ezra SIL","Ezra SIL SR","Keter Aram Tsova","Taamey David CLM","Keter YG","Shofar","David CLM","Hadasim CLM","Simple CLM","Nachlieli",Cardo,Alef,"Noto Serif Hebrew","Noto Sans Hebrew","David Libre",David,"Times New Roman",Gisha,Arial,FreeSerif,FreeSans}). Dark Reign During the events of Dark Reign, Billy and the other. The utopian parallel was said to be created by and I quote the very breath of demiurge stated by America herself multiple times. So don't act like I'm the one lacking information here. The Neoplatonic philosopher Plotinus addressed within his works Gnosticism's conception of the Demiurge, which he saw as un-Hellenic and blasphemous to the Demiurge or creator of Plato. Plato, as the speaker Timaeus, refers to the Demiurge frequently in the Socratic dialogue Timaeus (28a ff. Demiurge, under Mor-I-Dun's control, attacked the Avengers and his husband, King Hulk . ), c.360 BC. He started out in the Young Avengers with the code name Asgardian, using only lightning powers. At first, it was presumed that Billy was just an electrokinetic mutant with strong sorcery abilities. The Young Avengers managed to escape to Billy's household. Before the Vision could reveal the identity of the father, a battle erupted between Kree and Skrull forces over the fate of Hulkling. The true Platonic other-worldliness, which love and venerates the material universe in all its goodness and beauty as the most perfect possible image of the intelligible, contracted at length with the false, Gnostic, other-worldliness which hates and despises the material universe and its beauties (chs. In order to reconcile Aristotelian with Platonian philosophy,[5] Plotinus metaphorically identified the demiurge (or nous) within the pantheon of the Greek Gods as Zeus.[6]. The Demiurge who created the elder gods is not even the same entity, as the writer who came up with this nonsense for Wiccan confirmed, the great old ones that pic talks about appear to be the many-angled-ones, who are not even the same as earths elder gods created by the demiurge and again get over the fact that it shows him with comic panels, that has happened with lesser characters, what he actually does in that scan is wipe out one being from another dimension mostly powered by Billys standard powers and transport a bunch of fodder back through the portal they were right next to. The first name is Yaltabaoth, the second is Saklas ["fool"], and the third is Samael ["blind god"]. He has to say the action he wants to happen in order for the spell to be cast. Wiccan becomes the target of all enemy attacks. As Wiccan, he joined the Young Avengers and learned he was the reincarnated son of Scarlet Witch and Vision. Magic/Reality-Warping: Billy's main power is the superhuman ability to manipulate reality at will, enabling him to tap into the universe's store of magical energies, which he inherited from his spiritual mother the Scarlet Witch. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/raven-the-unkindness-respect-thread-2156619/, There's more too by the way I have not 100% updates that thread, Demiurge Wiccan is above time and reality, and the multiverse. Plato's work Timaeus is a philosophical reconciliation of Hesiod's cosmology in his Theogony, syncretically reconciling Hesiod to Homer.[1][2][3]. Level 2: While Wiccan has Mystical Destiny, he will transform into the Demiurge if you have at least 8 AP in all colors. She reassured him that "Everyone has some gift," and advised him that next time he encounter Kessler, not to back down. Wiccan (Billy Kaplan) 4-Star Rarity (Legendary) Heroes, Young Avengers, Team Cap. In the Archontic, Sethian, and Ophite systems, which have many affinities with the doctrine of Valentinus, the making of the world is ascribed to a company of seven archons, whose names are given, but still more prominent is their chief, "Yaldabaoth" (also known as "Yaltabaoth" or "Ialdabaoth"). The bad guy possessing Wiccan needed around TWENTY YEARS to destroy ONE universe at which point he was stated to be at full power and it did not go through time or affect another universe, as the storyline had people go back in time to prevent it and it worked. Billy and Teddy began to battle the Wrecking Crew, warning them against disgracing this sacred space. 588 B. SMT. He is an archon with the face of a lion, half flame, and half darkness. Wiccan was created by Allan Heinberg and Jim Cheung. In that series, Wanda and Vision conceive twin sons. Probably Raven if she is anything like what people pretend Demiurge Wiccan is. Undoubtedly, the Wiccan demiurge is very strong (high magic, rewriting of reality on high level and etc.). A woman jogger passed by and asked him if he was okay because she saw the boy was bleeding. False and melodramatic Gnostic teaching about the cosmic spheres and their influence (ch. They go to the Uncanny Avengers for help, but they too fall under the influence of the parasite. When it is employed by other Gnostics either it is not used in a technical sense, or its use has been borrowed from Valentinus. When Billy leaves the team, Sunspot gifts him a NYC penthouse for he and Hulking to retire to. He was supposed to have been safely locked away, guarded by the Avengers, but when a recently inverted group of Avengers (Sam Wilson, Scarlet Witch, Luke Cage, Wasp, Medusa, and Thor) went to check on him, they found that he'd escaped. @j2111: Yeah, I've seen all that before. Both Jarvis and the Hulk tried to sway them from taking such measures, but they refused, and unwittingly unleashed Kluh - the Hulk's Hulk. Also America: Made in the USA(2021). Billy Kaplan is a Young Avenger and later found out that he and Speed are the Scarlet Witch's formerly dead twin sons. He comes from heaven, and it is said his "face flashed with fire and [his] appearance was defiled with blood". He IS omniversal. The performance might range from a nudge to a certain existential state or outcome, to modified every reality in existence. Once Scarlet Witch had heard the full story of his troubles at school, she told him that next time he was threatened the best thing to do would be to stand up to Kessler. Thus their understanding of the Demiurge is similarly flawed in comparison to Platos original intentions. Outside, Magneto arrives, saying that he wants Billy help to locate his daughter. Wiccan and the Young Avengers fought alongside the New Avengers to end the conflict. This edit will also create new pages on Comic Vine for: Until you earn 1000 points all your submissions need to be vetted by other And what else has the oh so overhyped Demiurge done? Soon, almost all the young heroes of Earth-616 are assembled to battle Mother's army. Shocked and afraid at what he had done, Billy ran back to the Avengers Mansion to talk with the Scarlet Witch but she was nowhere to be found. Someone on the team (which shall be referred to from hereon out as the Young Masters) contacted Norman Osborn, aka Iron Patriot - America's 'Top Cop' and the leader of H.A.M.M.E.R. And viewing his dimension in comic book format in order to banish mother. This_Confused_Guy 1 yr. ago Back at the Avengers Mansion, Billy was eager to begin Sylvie's training, but she seemed more interested in getting closer to Billy, whom she appeared to be attracted to, causing Billy a degree of discomfort. Wiccan appears in 645 issues. Billy Kaplan never had a problem being different than other people. Wiccan can augment his strength through magic. In the future, Wiccan will become the Demiurge, a singular multidimensional Messiah, according to Loki. It is on this account that Moses says, at the creation of man alone that God said, "Let us make man," which expression shows an assumption of other beings to himself as assistants, in order that God, the governor of all things, might have all the blameless intentions and actions of man, when he does right attributed to him; and that his other assistants might bear the imputation of his contrary actions. Unwillingly, Wiccan's spell to bring back Hulkling's mother has brought back the parents of multiple heroes, including Ms. America's. The first and highest aspect of God is described by Plato as the One ( , 'To Hen'), the source, or the Monad. So youre attempts to try and debunk his multiversal status arent gonna work. As long as they are near their parents or the location of their parent's deaths, they will be in danger. Magical Barrier - 9 AP Wiccan conjures up a magical barrier to protect his allies. The law of necessary procession and the eternity of the universe (ch.3). But it is only the name that can be said to be specially Valentinian; the personage intended by it corresponds more or less closely with the Yaldabaoth of the Ophites, the great Archon of Basilides, the Elohim of Justinus, etc. Their intent was to kill the Skull to prevent the X-Men (under the leadership of an inverted Storm and Genesis, now the Apocalypse) from taking him. Nebro creates six angels in addition to the angel Saklas to be his assistants. He avoided Kessler at all costs until one day he saw Kessler had found a new victim. 2. "For, in sum, a part of their doctrine comes from Plato; all the novelties through which they seek to establish a philosophy of their own have been picked up outside of the truth." Especially considering said story isnt even completed and is still running so whos to say Catalina is lying? (Kick Duck Dancing) 16:52 GG - Petrivka 19:49 Daniel Christian ft. Kolly Dee - Slava Ukraine 23:19 Andrew StetS feat. This tradition of creator God as nous (the manifestation of consciousness), can be validated in the works of pre-Plotinus philosophers such as Numenius, as well as a connection between Hebrew and Platonic cosmology (see also Philo).[11]. The majority of scholars tend[51] to understand Plotinus' opponents as being a Gnostic sectcertainly (specifically Sethian), several such groups were present in Alexandria and elsewhere about the Mediterranean during Plotinus' lifetime. She was playing with them when Doctor Strange met her in the tower. During the events of Dark Reign, Billy and the other Young Avengers encounter another group of superpowered teenagers running around using the name "Young Avengers". Billy did not take Scarlet Witch's advice. The second principle is organization in its reflection of the nonsentient force or dynamis, also called the one or the Monad. That arc was about him being possessed by octopus-cthulu, who basically broke . Sam Wilson and his newly Inverted Avengers shrunk all the gathered heroes down using Pym particles extracted from the Wasp (presumably against her will) and trapped them all in one of Hank Pym's microscopic ant farms, thereby taking care of the "liability". Generally though, I'd agree with the take that trying to compare the power of two nebulously defined reality warpers is a bit silly. The only other thing he ever did was wipe out a dimensional parasite, that is at best as powerful as any other entity ruling their own dimension like Mephisto or the like, but likely considerable weaker. In this one-shot about the final adventure of the Avengers, Billy Maximoff chose to be a villain, calling himself the Grim Reaper. 13). Tanks eye beams from Sentry, and comes out unscathed. Mother is defeated, and all theteen heroes gather at MJ's Club to celebrate the new year. Unkindness has fewer feats and it took her a whole longer to destroy the multiverse. Cookie Notice It's existence has been retconned hence he has no such feats. View full history. For more information, please see our Wiccan doesn't have sufficient control over his powers to fully utilize the Demiurge's powers. Raven as the unkindness absorbed infinite planes, timelines, multiverse, gods etc Point blank, "the author confirmed on Twitter that the transformation lightning of the Wizard couldn't even harm the Unkindness, it's basically unstoppable and it's implied that Adam needs to travel back in time to prevent Raven from getting these powers. The Young Avengers agreed that in order for reality to stabilize, Iron Lad must return to his own time. It's literally all from the same run. The Demiurge will rewrite the rules of magic and all the implications of that decision will echo forward and backward across all realities. Respect William "Billy" Kaplan, aka Wiccan. Billy experiments with some names, adopting the name Demiurge, but later reverts back to Wiccan. The team arrived at the Avenger's Tower and with the help of the newly reformed Vision, located additional assistance to rescue Hulkling. It was during this time that Iron Lad's future self, Kang the Conqueror arrived to bring Iron Lad back to the future and convince him to accept his destiny. Thus, in such systems, the Demiurge acts as a solution to (or, at least possibly, the problem or cause that gives rise to) the problem of evil.[14]. He is married to Hulkling. However the utopian parallel was still created by the demiurge. Of the entire team of YA Lite, only Enchantress and Coat of Arms (who had been tested by her old acquaintance, Tommy, aka Speed) were asked to join the Young Avengers. As he writes in his commentary on John 4:21. A second? New Music Friday: The best releases out on March 3 : All Songs Considered The best albums out this week include Kali Uchis' Red Moon in Venus, a self-titled joint from the Jamaican American artist . During the AXIS event, following the Inversion of several heroes and villains on the island of Genosha, the Red Skull was held captive in the Avengers Tower. Soon after, Billy married his longtime boyfriend, Hulking, however, their new life is briefly interrupted when Hulking takes his rightful place as the king of a Kree and Skrull alliance. It is eventually revealed by Agatha Harkness that Billy and Tommy were subconsciously created by Wanda through the use of Chaos Magic, and cannot exist outside of Westview. Read the scan I posted above. After a dangerous and adventure-filled trip through the multiverse, the team ventures to Mother's dimension to rescue Teddy. At full maturity, a Demiurge is stronger than any Nephalem, including one sired by an Arch-angel/demon and can use their unique powers to kill them with ease except not when one is using its true potential. Flabbergasted, he then admitted that she was his favorite Avenger. When Loki teleports away, seemingly abandoning the team, Wiccan sees no choice but to kill himself in order to end his spell, but is saved by Loki's return. Quispel[who?] During this battle, Billy revealed his ability to cast spells where he had previously limited himself to lightning projection and flight due to his inexperience. Special circumstance here as Hulkling was in mortal danger so he was angry. Wiccan appears as a playable character in Marvel Future Fight. He has received two figures to date, one of which depicted his most well known costume, and the other of which depicted his original Asgardian outfit. like very very gay William "Billy" Kaplan, also known as Wiccan, is a human mutant and magician. These are either hyliko or pneumatiko. The blasphemous falsity of the Gnostic claim to control the higher powers by magic and the absurdity of their claim to cure diseases by casting out demons (ch. On Earth-91172, a world ravaged by the Hulk, Wiccan is a member of the Next Wave of Heroes - the last heroes of earth. Level 4: While Wiccan has Mystical Destiny, he will transform into the Demiurge if you have at least 7 AP in all colors. You're like one of those Supes Prime One Million fanboys. While being attacked, Billy's powers manifested for the first time. Billy was impressed with the magical capabilities of Sylvie Lushton, aka Enchantress. The story isnt finished yet and theres multiple things pertaining her previous origin to even consider this an actual sound recton. The is no utopia parallel. However, Master Pandemonium stated that their past was steeped in chaos and tragedy and convinced them that rather than search for who they were in the past, they should embrace who they are now. He briefly achieves this form, and is able to view the past, present and future, as well as freely alter the universe. The battle culminated with Iron Lad killing Kang which altered the past and present. Wiccan and the others were eventually rescued by their teammates and continued avoiding registration. Here he uses an offensive spell but he doesn't repeat the spell. During her marriage to the Vision, the Scarlet Witch used her reality-altering powers to create twin boys Willaim and . The writers confirmed Raven's level of power on Twitter when I asked them! I have and we still dont know if shes even telling the truth considering theyre are factors that still arent explained that were established in Americas solo run in 2017-2019. He is first mentioned in "The Cosmos, Chaos, and the Underworld" as one of the twelve angels to come "into being [to] rule over chaos and the [underworld]". They are rescued by Noh-Varr and Kate Bishop, and the team flees to Central Park in order to avoid bringing too many people into the spell. This vilification of the creator was held to be inimical to Christianity by the early fathers of the church. Around the time the two boys are physically 10, they begin to display superpowers, with Tommy having inherited his uncle Pietro's super speed and Billy displaying magical powers similar to the ones used by his mother. In Middle Platonist and Numenius's Neo-Pythagorean cosmogenies, the Demiurge is second God as the nous or thought of intelligibles and sensibles[4] (Middle Platonism and Neo-Pythagoreanism overlapped: both originating in the early 1st century BC and extending through to the end of the 2nd century AD or even into the 3rd century). Vision confirmed the story of the twins. The Super-Skrull noted that Wiccan seemed to have inherited the Scarlet Witch's magical and reality-warping abilities while Tommy has those of her twin brother, Quicksilver. In school, he met a tremendous amount of hate and fear because he was different. I do believe unkindness best feat was eating the multiverse, Demi Wiccan has ascended the multiverse and time. Billy and his boyfriend Teddy were among those gathered at the meeting. In the "Battle of the Atom" X-Men crossover event, Billy Kaplan is one of the future X-Men, alongside a Phoenix-powered Quentin Quire, Jubilee (who goes by the codename "Wolverine"), Kymera, Shogo Lee, and Sir Robert (Bobby Drake). Following an analysis by Scholem this etymology no longer enjoyed any notable support. Wiccan's magic is similar to his mother's, the Scarlet Witch. Not to mention we never get a reason why a chump like Loki would know this when all kinds of greater beings and entities appear to be unaware. The word dmiurgos properly describes his relation to the material; he is the father of that which is animal like himself.[15]. The wizard's power is so powerful it sent Adam through the multiverse and disrupted the omniverse, so this is another nice feat for the Unkindness." Answer: Wiccan is a powerful magic user with a unique tie to Avengers history. @demiurgekaplan: the entirety of multiversal demi urges feats come from statements about creating the utopia parallel. 14). [49] In the ninth tractate of the second of his Enneads, Plotinus criticizes his opponents for their appropriation of ideas from Plato: From Plato come their punishments, their rivers of the underworld and the changing from body to body; as for the plurality they assert in the Intellectual Realmthe Authentic Existent, the Intellectual-Principle, the Second Creator and the Soulall this is taken over from the Timaeus. Wiccan and Hulkling from this reality, also known as Earth A, came to Earth-616 as tourists, and for some reason they registered in the Initiative. Instead, the Young Avengers continued to function as a team, now using Kate Bishop's resources to support them. The one also in Immortal Wonder Woman? Here, at the summit of this system, the Source and Demiurge (material realm) coexist via the process of henosis. Wiccan, Speed, and Hulkling team up with Xavin and the Runaways to defeat the Super-Skrulls that are sent to assassinate Hulkling. However, at this point in time, Wiccan doesn't have sufficient control over his powers to fully utilize the Demiurge's powers. she absorbed the realms of nightmare and dream . I made The respect threads , and I'm telling you the unkindness is a problem. 22022: "Short statement of the doctrine of the three hypostasis, the One, Intellect and Soul; there cannot be more or fewer than these three. The character has been depicted as a member of the Young Avengers, a team of teenage superheroes, as well as the Champions. The absurdities of the Gnostic doctrine of the fall of "Wisdom" (Sophia) and of the generation and activities of the Demiurge, maker of the visible universe (chs. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The true doctrine of Soul (ch. The Demiurge, isolated, did not behold his mother, nor anyone else, and concluded that only he existed, ignorant of the superior levels of reality. He seems to also ignore chanting spells when he's angry or extremely emotional. The group travels to New York to discuss what they should do, but they are found by Ms. Altman, and defeated. It's also not in English like normal. His analysis showed the unattested Aramaic term to have been fabulated and attested only in a single corrupted text from 1859, with its claimed translation having been transposed from an the reading of an earlier etymology whose explanation seemingly equated 'darkness' and 'chaos' when translating an unattested supposed plural form of Hebrew: , romanized:bhu. Billy of the Young Avengers, son of the Scarlet Witch and brother to Speed and that's pretty cool, also I'm gay. Lol @ universal demiurge wiccan. When Hulkling is hurt during the battle, Billy uses his powers to put the Sons into comas. The work of Plotinus and other later Platonists in the 3rd century AD to further clarify the Demiurge is known as Neoplatonism. Last edited on 26 February 2023, at 15:49, introducing citations to additional sources, Learn how and when to remove this template message, Against the Gnostics; or, Against Those that Affirm the Creator of the Cosmos and the Cosmos Itself to be Evil, International Society for Neoplatonic Studies, Dark Mirrors of Heaven: Gnostic Cosmogony, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Demiurge&oldid=1141744969, This page was last edited on 26 February 2023, at 15:49. As a Kree, Hulkling was to be enlisted in the Kree army, by force if necessary. Billy Kaplan, also known by his superhero alias Wiccan and formerly Asgardian, is a super-powered warlock and the reincarnated son of the Scarlet Witch. "Billy Kaplan was a normal high school boy until he discovered his power of Electrokinesis and became one of the heroes he admired. Teleports an entire prisoner van to a secure SHIELD location. Although a fashioner, the demiurge is not necessarily the same as the creator figure in the monotheistic sense, because the demiurge itself and the material from which the demiurge fashions the universe are both considered consequences of something else. Wiccan. The dyad is energeia emanated by the one that is then the work, process or activity called nous, Demiurge, mind, consciousness that organizes the indeterminate vitality into the experience called the material world, universe, cosmos. As the Demiurge, Wiccan completely eradicated Mother and every threat she had created in Young Avengers #13 by Kieron Gillen and Jamie McKelvie. Wiccan, Speed, and Hulkling team up with Xavin and the Runaways to defeat the Super-Skrulls that are sent to assassinate Hulkling. Since that night, Billy's father never did. Being raised in a normal home in New York with his loving mother, Rebecca Kaplan, father, Jeff Kaplan, and two brothers, Billy had the average problems for a gay teenager. Billy and the Young Avengers are the first team to respond to invading Skrulls in New York. Unhappy about this, Billy uses a location spell to find the team, and the real Young Avengers confront the false ones. Plotinus also elucidates the equation of matter with nothing or non-being in The Enneads[9] which more correctly is to express the concept of idealism or that there is not anything or anywhere outside of the "mind" or nous (c.f. Plotinus criticizes his opponents for "all the novelties through which they seek to establish a philosophy of their own" which, he declares, "have been picked up outside of the truth";[50] they attempt to conceal rather than admit their indebtedness to ancient philosophy, which they have corrupted by their extraneous and misguided embellishments. The "One" is further separated into spheres of intelligence; the first and superior sphere is objects of thought, while the latter sphere is the domain of thought. 2). You can continue to delude yourself Wiccan is universal let alone multiversal. Refutation of objections from the inequalities and injustices of human life (ch. Teddy assisted Billy by posing as him while he and Speed went on a search for the Scarlet Witch to learn more about their past. The Valentinian theory elaborates that from Achamoth (he kt sopha or lower wisdom) three kinds of substance take their origin, the spiritual (pneumatiko), the animal (psychiko) and the material (hyliko).