One published in 2015 suggested a significant reduction in fatigue versus placebo. Sorry about that.]. In particular I find I don’t get heart palpitations, which can be upsetting for me haha. Chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) is a chronic and extremely debilitating illness characterized by prolonged fatigue and multiple symptoms with unknown cause, diagnostic test, or universally effective treatment. CoQ10 is usually synthesised by the body given the right raw materials. Coenzyme Q, also known as ubiquinone, is a coenzyme family that is ubiquitous in animals and most bacteria (hence the name ubiquinone). That's interesting to know about the PEM. Hello, i'm wondering how people have got on with this supplement? If it don't work, don't take it. These capsules are bloody expensive to buy, £25 for 120 at 200mg each. Dr. Balch ("Prescription for Nutritional Healing") mentions it in his book under "CFS." He says that Coenzyme Q10 "enhances the effectiveness of the immune system and protects the heart" and that Coenzyme A "works with Coenzyme Q10 and aids in the removal of toxic substances from the body." Only been trying it for a few weeks, hard to notice any difference. Information is beautiful say it's just about not worth it but then that could be for your Average Joe, not a CFS sufferer. Lower plasma Coenzyme Q10 in depression: a marker for treatment resistance and chronic fatigue in depressi… Coenzyme Q10. 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Inflammation, oxidative stress, mitochondrial dysfunction, and CoQ 10 deficiency have been well documented in CFS. r/cfs: For research, treatments, and personal stories regarding Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS)/Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (ME) ... (acetyl-L-carnitine), optimized mitochondrial energetics (coenzyme Q10), cell membrane support (phosphatidylserine), and enhanced nerve cell function (benfotiamine, 5-MTHF, and methylcobalamin). I can make no recommendation either way under the principle of 'not doing harm', but upping your dosage is a legitimate thing to consider. Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10) Treatments. If you try it, try 200mg and take it with fat (helps absorption). By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10) is a substance found everywhere in our bodies and thought to be a vital ingredient in our cellular energy production. Also had to be extra careful about pacing when I was on it, because I felt like I had more energy, but it didn't actually increase my capacity for exercise before the post exertional malaise set in at all. Almost felt like something else was gobbling it up instead of the intended mitochondria. I'll bear that all in mind, thanks for your post. 2009;30(4):470-6. The reason I stopped taking it was for a series of blood tests. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/TopicLinksContainer.361933014be843c79476.css.map*/It worked for me earlier in the course of my illness, but became less helpful after a new virus and symptom flare. Which sounds nice. 2. 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I do feel better on it, but my energy still gets wiped out fairly quickly. Is it twice as effective at say 2700mg vs 1350mg vs 700mg? I took it daily for about a month and I was still worsening. In a few countries it is “livable” without excessive stress (which would hinder recovery). Neuro Endocrinology Letters, 30(4), 470-476. This rate of improvement is… In either case, both forms are fat soluble and should be taken with dietary fats in meals for best absorption. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I am coming to the view that many of my CFS patients are metabolically dyslexic - that is to say even when all the raw materials are available, they cannot make their own Co-Q10 in sufficient amounts and therefore levels need to be measured and supplemented. It is also thought to be an important antioxidant. Plasma concentrations of CoQ10 are depressed in patients with chronic kidney disease (CKD). so it hasn't stopped those. Introduction Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10) is a fat-soluble vitamin-like quinone that exerts antioxidative functions and is also an important factor in mitochondrial metabolism. Kyosuke Watanabe, Satoshi Nozaki, Miki Goto, Ken-ichi Kaneko, Emi Hayashinaka, Satsuki Irie, Akira Nishiyama, Kazuaki Kasai, Kenji Fujii, Yasuhiro Wada, Kei Mizuno, Kenji Mizuseki, Hisashi Doi, Yasuyoshi Watanabe, PET imaging of 11C-labeled coenzyme Q10: Comparison of biodistribution between [11C]ubiquinol-10 and [11C]ubiquinone-10, Biochemical and Biophysical Research Communications, … Even better, one of the guests said that this supplement was often used to treat CFS. I've been doing this for a few days. I get migraines about twice a month lasting on average 2 days. I tried it in the beginning of my illness and got no help from it. This post is for a very long term friend, DanB, and many others who have suffered for years with no or little cash after essentials. 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