If I absolutely had to ditch all my guns and go with a single handgun + single rifle, this would be my choice. .357 Maximum loaded with Our 200g Hollow Point gas checked to produce zero leading even at full speed. The hammer was replaced and some work was done to help the feeding and cycling but I am still having a bolt issue. 9mm brass-case FMJ is pushing .40 cents a round for the cheap stuff and I dont see the price dropping anytime soon. $1,379.99. As a recap on hand loads, I would suggest that anyone wishing to hunt with the .357 rifle should . on January 02, 2020: Recently had mcCullough arms Valley Grand, Al. Actually prefer 30-30 to any handgun round. Pricey, but they take down to a package about 20 inches long without sacrificing accuracy and are very well made. And a fun one! Pun intended. Looks like AA 1680 is the top powder choice. by Chris83716 Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:35 pm, Post This rifle will be used for S. Michigan Deer so I'm primarily looking for favorite powder and pet loads. You want a 357 Max rifle, best to go to MGM with Encore barrel, with Bellm's chambering. lever gun that I own and have ever shot, easy on the arms and has some versatility. We are not currently living in such times, when even steel-cased Russian 9mm is sold off the shelves at ridiculous markups. It is also more effective when used with a long gun, where it is legal to hunt with rifles. 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Thirdly, in ordinary political/economic times .38 and .357 ammo is plentiful, ubiquitous, and affordable. If a customer takes possession of the firearm, Intrepid considers this acceptance of the condition, and will not offer a return. SAAMI maximum is 48,000, and in the closed breech guns pressures can be run at the same levels as 5.56 NATO, about 54,000 psi. . Granted, it comes rather dear at $1,214 MSRP, but since the name on it is Marlin instead of Winchester, you should be able to pick it up for much less. The world's most powerful firearm database. Build a Ruger#1. Rechambering to bottle neck cartridges with additional for handling and converting extractor for rimless cases, from $205. No bloody wonder that Remingtons in bankruptcy again. rounds border on simply dumb when the .357 Maximum is so much more accurate and easier to shoot accurately with its moderate recoil. RETURN POLICY: Intrepid Shooting Sports will accept returns on firearms that arrive other than advertised in the listing. Lube is easily made from beeswax and chassis grease. I sold both rather quickly. Why wouldnt you want a .357 Magnum lever action rifle? Velocities can exceed 2,000 fps in a 14-inch barrel, and that could make a hollowpoint bullet intended for .357 Magnum velocities behave like a varmint bullet. Primos Jelly Head Choke Tube Maximum Supertight Remington 20 Ga. Primos Jelly Head Choke Tube Maximum Supertight Remington 12 Ga. Primos Jelly Head Choke Tube Maximum Benelli-beretta 12 Ga. Uberti 1873 Cattleman NM Steel 7 1/2" .357 Mag with Retractable firing pin (356550), Taylor's & Co 1892 Alaskan Black Takedown 16" Lever Action 357 Mag - NIB, 200 Round Case Underwood Ammunition .38 Special 100gr. A max charge of 27.0 grains posted roughly 1,875 fps with the Speer 180-grain .35 Remington bullet and shot under 1 MOA in my 14-inch Contender. The targets were heavy and had to be hit hard and in the right place. It carries easy, at 6- lbs, with swivel studs coming standard (as does a hammer block safety) and has a large loop for fast cycling. has the energy and accuracy needed for 200 meter silhouette shooting. Even swap. But I take your point that a rifle can be usefuland fun. A couple of people got that familiar look in their eyes and started plotting their next purchase right there. A . Finding ammo can be tough for any caliber these days, but if youve already got a stash of .38 and .357 for your handguns, youve already got that covered. Remington is the only manufacturer of brass for this caliber, but Hornady, Speer, Sierra, Remington, Winchester, and several other manufacturers make bullets that work well for the cartridge. including a .40 S&W Barrel (view pictures). I did it some years back when Indiana got new deer hunting regulations. Thus sighted, 125 grain +p 38 special is spot on out to about 50 yards, maybe furtherbut havent tried it. Moku Manu, Hawai'i. Jun 17, 2016. Ive chosen to go with a strategy that includes both firearms that the SASS folks find fascinating and others that cause the antis to have bowel control problems you can cover a lot of bases for just a couple thousand dollars. Why wouldnt you want a .357 Magnum lever action rifle? So naturally, I'm looking at different options and trying to figure out what has the longest range. Of commonly available rifles, 444 marlin seems to be near the top of the heap, ballistics wise. Youll see how relevant lever guns are next time the bolsheviks are in the white house. #17. The .357 Maximum was developed in the early 80's by Ruger and Remington Arms as a silhouette cartridge for the Blackhawk revolver. BTW, next to .357 Mag in the combo, my next favorite choice would be the set in .44 Mag. and especially their 180 gr. Why? It was stopped when Ruger or someone discovered flame cutting of the top strap above the barrel/cylinder gap. Discussion forums for GunBroker.com users. Most of the famous Hatfield-McCoy feud was fought with lever guns. The 1894 CSBL has a 16-inch barrel, with an 8-shot tube. Had a lousy day in the deer blind once, in my youth. So there are several options available that are much less expensive than the fine examples listed in the article. Zombie apocalypse? Thank God for so many various powders available. You do want to make sure your rounds are flatnose, hollowpoint or LeverEvolution in a tube magazine. Everyone asks if they can shoot MAGnums in the .357 MAXimum chamber; however, with the .3" long jump before the bullet even gets to the throat, you can't expect great accuracy. Shooter's Reference Load Data for .357 Maximum .357 Maximum - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Lee #1 Lyman #1 RCBS #6 Recipe Type: Pistol Bullet Weight: ALL 100 gr 110 gr 125 gr 140 gr 158 gr 165 gr 170 gr 180 gr 200 gr Powder: ALL Accurate 1680 Accurate 4100 Accurate 5744 Hodgdon CFE BLK Hodgdon H110 Hodgdon Lil'Gun Discussion forums for GunBroker.com users. Although some may not find this particular gun relevant, I think there are lots of pluses. While initially offered in .44-40, .32-20 and .38-40 (and discontinued for some time) a new version emerged in 2013 chambered for .357 Magnum/.38 Spl and a hammer block safety for safe carry. Thats one reason my dad carried a semi-auto 12 Gauge for whitetails. The .450 is like a 45-70 magnum. . Which chamber to choose? The company made its humble start in 1963in Gussago, Italywhen Giuseppe Pietta made a commitment to produce guns as authentic and true-to-original as possible. 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. The .357 Rem. Its an entry-level model MSRP is $972, youll pay about $200 less retail but the rifle comes tapped for a scope or rail if so desired. 44 Mag is much more forgiving. Goes to show I learn something new every day. Cartridge is a mite better now than 3 years ago, IMO. by Hobie Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:35 am, Post Factory .357 Maximum ammo is no longer sold by the big manufacturers, but the folks at Starline offer new brass cases for reloaders. The .357 Magnum is probably the most widely-used revolver cartridge today, managing to thrive in an era where the wheelguns and associated cartridges are growing scarce. by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:36 pm, Post Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. I love Lever action rifles, and own Rossis, Savage 99s, Winchesters , ( 92 and 94s), Marlins, and Henrys, in 357 magnum and 44 Rem Mag. I just read how lever actions were among the first guns carried on single point slings. If you want to shoot .357 Magnum and .38 Special ammo, just long throat the factory chamber! Remington introduced the .357 Maximum cartridge in 1983 to considerable fanfare from the shooting press. . Ive been looking for a stainless 1894 in 44mag for years. First and foremost is that all the straight-walled cartridges in this article max out at somewhat close range. Brand: Winchester. Another Marlin not to miss is the Model 1894 CST, which features a black pistol grip stock and stainless finish. The fact that they are very difficult to find, new or used, is a testament of that they are still relative and in high demand. The chronograph results show it is identical to the 35 Remington. . No such thing as a perfect caliber, but .357 magnum and its sister the .357sig is about as close as one can get. Ed Palumbo from Tualatin, OR on November 23, 2019: I spoke to a gunsmith about rebarreling a Ruger #3 falling block (single shot) to .357 Maximum and he was appalled, commenting "You'll never be able to resell it! 008-E503829 | MTM. The fact is, .357 lever action rifles are proven game-getters, as they are well-suited to whitetail and hog hunting in thick timber at close (r) range, inside about 150 yards. The max lead . Buy 357 Maximum Brass Pistol Cases 95pcs Mixed Brass 357 Max: GunBroker is the largest seller of Reloading Supplies Ammunition Reloading All: 974082394. . And as far as lever action rifles in pistol calibersthey have never been irrelevant over their 150 year history. The .357 Magnum round is pushed to greater ballistic performance (add about another 600 fps and another 500 ft-lbs of energy, give or take) as well as a wealth of ammunition choices. It fails to cause antis to have uncontrollable, explosive decompression of the space inside the colon? And of course my Marlin comes back today from the warranty repair and they still havent fixed the main issue I sent it in for. The availability of molds ranging from 180 to 250 grains in both gascheck and plain-base bullets, reasonable recoil, rimmed for headspace, larger bullet to touch the next ring, there are advantages. Can we get some more ideas? new No sales CA - NY - know your state laws! by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:09 pm, Post Comes with original Colt wood and rubber grips Sig Sauer P2340 .357 caliber with a 4in. someguy2800, Jul 12, 2019 #7 Eagle 17 and Bfh_auto like this. THROATS SHORTER THAN MINE WILL INCREASE PRESSURES. Nice single shot rifle. by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:25 pm, Post Walther's new Performance Duty Pistol is ready for both concealed carry and conventional service situations. Similar to the Critter You Are Hunting Effect. Henry is close with SPX but went plastic stock.DOH! Turns out that my relatively new Ford pickup has plenty of room for a lever gun too. But do you know how to properly use them? And, re getting it looked at, yes; thing is, there arent too many smiths in my area who are comfortable working on lever-actions (and the ones that are, I dont trust). No turnstyle safety on top of the bolt to remove. 357 Remington Maximum Additional Loads Below are the all of the bullet and load recipes followed by the groups shot at distance with our 21 357 Max 1:20 Encore barrel. Probably because the articles title was the 5 best RIFLES, not handguns. For sale I have a Harrington & Richardson (H&R) model 158 rifle in .357 Maximum. The .357 Max will out perform the .350 Legend except in one area - rimless. The .450 will really put a wallop on your shoulder. Rechamber to .350 Legend from .357 Magnum or .357 Maximum: Add $25 to mill/convert the extractor for the rebated rimless .350 Legendcase rim. I have a H&R single shot .357 maximum. I have been thinking of adding a Henry Big Boy X in .357 to go along with my other lever guns, but Ive heard that .357 can be inconsistent regarding accuracy out of a carbine. True dat. Even though it was flawed engineering, it was the cartridge that suffered. Not even a Rossi(saw a trick shot dude on a video whos main gun was a Rossi). Great deal on a 357 magnum! Gun Genius. Location. by AJMD429 Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:32 pm, Post Read Their Fine Print!! Lack of inventory isnt relevance in modern times. Show Only Guns The results are: . . You can find handguns in the .357 Remington Maximum, but prices vary. Rossi 92 is one of the best purchases Ive ever made. The Henry Big Boy Steel in .357 is about $700. Also, after breaking it in, the Rossis action (which is the major criticism for this gun) was just as smooth as the Winchesters, Marlins and Henrys I have shot. The evidently know a 22 rifle or shotgun by sight. Also, at higher velocities, the bullet is able to realize a flatter trajectory meaning longer shots are possible. .44-40. Please enjoy those guns with your family on my behalf, as I will not be purchasing **anything** in CA in my continuing quest to remain off the CADOJs books. those .357s out of a 20 inch barrel will just bounce off the bad guys chest, I tell ya!!!!!!! Past 20, pressure drops off and so do velocities. Make sure to watch till the end. In 357 max 24" Douglas premium barrel 1in16 twist shoots 180 pointed flat point over 4227 with CCI 450 primer .7 inches at 100 don't have to worry about resale I'll keep this one. Barrel shoots Hornady 180 grain XTPs very well. Maximum, call Kurt Bellm at 970 433 9525. Spoken like someone who doesnt live in a 2A benighted state or area. Here in Ohio legal deer hunting rifle cartridges are straightwall cases from .357 to .50. Manufacturer Cimarron Firearms br brModel 1892 Lever Action Riflebr brSKU AS621br brCaliber .357 Magnumbr brCapacity 10 Roundsbr brBarrel Length  20 Oct CIM CA2903 CIM UBERTI 1894 RIFLE 38-55 26" Brand: CIMARRON FIREARMS CO Item Number: CIM CA2903 UPC: 814230101112 Cimarron Firearms, the leader in authentic replicas from America Glock #32 (357 Sig) -- #13 rounds magazine -- #3 Magazines and loader only! by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:35 pm, Post Nosler, and Speer reloading manuals all recommend the use of rifle (rather than pistol) primers due to the high operating pressure of the .357 Maximum. Count yourself lucky They are getting to very hard to find! It's important to note that when using cast bullets, you will need to use gas checks since the velocities reached with .357 Remington Maximum may cause problems. For them a pistol caliber Lever carbine makes a lot of sense. While visiting Rugers New Hampshire facility in 1985, I learned that when the company built the California Highway Patrol Commemorative model of the No. It shoots deadly accurate and has amazingly smooth trigger action. The hammer and bolt still make contact with each other on the side of the hammer, not just where the bolt cocks the hammer. Long loaded 357 Mag should still be accurate in the 360 and are great for fun shooting. Gun shows are your salvation. The Henry Big Boy Steel is a great option, too. rifle velocities, rifle bullets for the .35 Rem. This is a high-class place so act respectable. .357 Rem. It is such a joy to shoot! It list 357 Max data for Jacketed and Cast bullets from all the major players. It was too intense and very finicky. I am sure I am not the only one that is open to it but finds that it is not possible right now. They show up now and again and they are a really fine rifle. But after losing popularity due to gas cutting issues, this chambering was eventually dropped by all manufacturers. In addition to the rapid erosion of the barrel face adjacent to the cylinder, the topstrap was being grooved by a combination of hot gas and partially burned propellant granules. Smooth as butter. allows seating bullets out to create the same case capacity as the published "revolver spec" .357 Maximum loads that have all the bullet shank stuffed into the case, duplicate .350 Legend powder charge weights that should give the same or better ballistics as factory .350 Legend ammo, and.