Not normal folks obsessed ones do. Tragedy also touched Patricias life. They are a joke. You can PM me please, this way you can update your article with the correct information. And for you to even ask why documentaries are biased, makes me wonder if you have the ability to determine fact from fiction! Your email address will not be published. Unlike most people who stayed on the streets all day, she maintained a neat, attractive appearance, wearing makeup and a dress or skirt each day. 2023 NYP Holdings, Inc. 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Why bother with this site, which isnt for professional criminalists/forensic scientists, if youre going to get so tetchy and rude? And the obvious answer is Ill tell you why (which really is common knowledge). "You can keep those evil eyes glaring just glare away because this is going to be the last time that you see me.". Clifford Freeman, were you a juror? I comment on these forums because they are the only places offering the opportunity to, hopefully, bring awareness to those whore unfamiliar with this case and her unfair plight. She definitely did it. Dance defense. DALLAS, Texas - A Dallas jury unanimously found Yaser Said guilty of killing his two teen daughters on Tuesday. She hasnt, she didnt get a hard enough sentence. However, that first theory very neatly allows the cops to further theorise that the gun she once owned (which had a history of jamming after the first shot) was the one used at the murder. Catherine Im in complete agreement with you! I saw lots of her defenders saying that he got the hairs from a hairbrush of hers that he had somehow saved, which I thought was absolutely ridiculous. Perhaps that would lessen your fright. (A good point. When they were getting ready to drive away, a police car pulled up behind them and checked their car. Were suppose to ignore the actual forensic evidence and forensic opinions because we were told that a cop overheard her claiming she confessed? I can only suggest you read through my comments again, only more thoroughly. Inside the locked 1992 vehicle, police discovered some strands of blond hair stained with dried blood. A Pennsylvania woman who went missing more than 30 years ago in a case that stumped authorities who later declared her legally dead has been found living in a nursing home in Puerto Rico. The police considered the possibility that Joann ran away, a theory disputed by her family. Patricia Wright is a prisoner in Central California Womens Facilitys Nursing Unit coping with an extraordinary array of challenges. She got 12 months of probation for shoplifting at a Walmart in Lexington, North Carolina. And because some of Patricias advocates have suggested Andrew Katrinak had a motive for murder, I checked into whether he had a life insurance payout to gain upon Joanns demise. According to court documents, Yassein and Islam Said had been communicating with Yaser Said since Jan. 1, 2008, to help him evade capture. WebShe is as guilty as her husbandshe KNEW that her husband would kill these girlsshe even STATED that he would kill the girlsand yet she lied to them to get them to return to Texas They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. "The family has been very patient. The girls mother, Patricia Said, fled with She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. The real killer is Rorrer! Irelands husband buried it in the yard because he didnt feel comfortable with a firearm inside, she said. I dont understand Partricias defenders pointing to Andrew with the dyed blond hair found at the car and murder scene. Im trying to understand exactly your reasoning asking me staying away from this site because of my insulting remarks! The article also notes that most inmates earn around 19 cent an hour at their jobs and must pay $5 each time they need medical attention or medicine. A Florida mother, who allegedly lied to police that her son with autism was abducted by two black men, was charged with the child's murder, police said. "We will never again know the joy and love we knew for 33 years," the letter stated. Todays arrest of their father, Yaser Said brings us closer to ensuring justice is served on their behalf.. A man was convicted Thursday of helping to hide a brother who was accused of murdering his teenage daughters in Irving more than 12 years ago, the U.S. Attorneys Office announced. It was Patricias hair no question. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. But I suppose you havent a clue about that. Help, the younger sister could be heard crying on a 911 recording. She didnt kill those two boys and TX knows, but they made too much noise about it, hence this is probably the real reason that Darlie hasnt been put to death 24-25 yrs later. And she will have to answer eventually. Other loyal friends and associates attested to Patricias kindness toward horses and devotion to her daughter, whom she took along as she worked in stables. Ms. We should be skeptical of those, like you, who suggest its obvious a jury got it wrong that you know better than 12 people presented with the evidence. Testimony from Walter Blalock contradicted Patricias claim that she never had a gun. Yaser Abdel Said, 63, was arrested Wednesday by agents in the small town of Justin, about 36 miles northwest of Dallas, officials said. DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. They are total bs. Patricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. Pat had a string of bad relationships in her past and was not happy. I hope she rots in hell. Theres also the matter of a woman who suddenly remembered she saw Joann with another man at a Food Mart store five days after the disappearance. At that time he was living in Connecticut. simply to create an atmosphere of hatred towards a person who, in all probability, has been wrongfully imprisoned. I dont see any defining comment or wording that justifies that claim. Patricia Prue to undergo 2nd competency exam, Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. In a million years, she wouldnt do anything to harm that.. Irving Police Chief Jeff Spivey hailed authorities for pursuing justice in the case for more than a decade. The hair evidence is not compelling because theres a very good possibility that the evidence was compromised. We really thought she was dead all those years. Oh my God. And Patricia did live in another state. Probably by the jeans and the boots. Which Patricia did not, so who is the real killer? Gail Gattrell, the sisters great-aunt, described the deaths as an honor killing which are often carried about by a relative who believes a woman went against conservative Islamic values on love or marriage. These two offenses were classified as felonies when they should have been only misdemeanors, since the property stolen was valued under $400. Your comment could not be farther than the truth! Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. In 1995, Larry Wright was facing a 10-year sentence for two felonies, risk of an injury to a minor and violating a restraining order, and a misdemeanor for threatening by saying, Im going to kill you, to his wife after he caught her cheating. "I want to apologize personally for the fact that my husband wasn't a strong enough human being to admit his wrongs and be able to take his rightful punishment willingly," she said. In another peculiar turn of events, LAPD had failed to preserve the evidence when Jerome Scotts body was found two days after his murder. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. His defenders claimed that the confession was coerced, the video was grainy/unclear or doctored and the witness was confused and/or unreliable. Some two years into the investigation of Rorrer, a court order was obtained to remove hair specimens from her. It might have said no root but could have been wrong. BROADCASTING SPECULATIVE SCENES, SUCH AS MENTIONED ABOVE, CAN LEAVE A VERY INDELIBLE MEMORY ON THOSE WHO ARE HAPPY TO REMAIN GULLIBLE. She also will never get to see them get married. Omg so well put! Sir I would not kill somebody and I definitely wouldnt kill somebody I never met, Rorrer said. They also think she killed her first hubby Larry Ford as well. That poor child who grew up with no mom for absolutely no reason. For more on the Katrinak murder case, you can watch Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction for free on YouTube. Even after 12 years of frustration and dead-ends, the pursuit for their killer never ceased, Spivey said in a statement. I have all her moms and her jewelry that was given to me when my mom passed away. Yaser Said is accused of killing his two daughters in 2008. Theres a similar air of confusion connected to the Scott Peterson debacle. Rorrer is as guilty as OJ Simpson. You took my life. But Im sure that was just a coincidence LOL. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. Search is on. And its been bad. WebHis ex-wife and the mother of the teens, Patricia Owens, watched Said as the judge sentenced him. One lengthy sentence which goes on and on and concludes with one of my sentences from a previous comment! Before receiving her final sentence, Patricia Prue, 35, of Waterford addressed the court saying that her biggest regret was not seeking help for her mental health issues earlier. Liesbeth Powers/The Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? It could be coincidence, but I really doubt it. Immediately after getting out of prison in the year 2000, Larry wrote a detailed letter stating that he lied about his sisters involvement in the death of her husband. "I hope somebody gets their hands on you and hurt you and do everything you ever did to anybody. Her sister stated shed had a religious obsession since she was a child. Those who knew Joann pointed out that she didnt like to drive in reverse and would have never parked that way. I live in Pennsylvania, not far from where this happened. The fact that Jerome was gay was left out of the trial altogether. in journalism from the University of Southern California. Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. The Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), Families to Amend Californias Three Strikes (FACTS) and Change.org are among the many groups that have been working to get Patricia Wright released from prison. Yaser Said had been on the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list since 2014 in connection with the fatal shootings of his daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, on New Years Day 2008. When police traveled to North Carolina to interview Patricia about the murders of Joann and Alex, she said that on the day of the homicides, she had visited a feed store, a tanning salon, and a country music club. But thats just some of the ammo on Team Patricias battleship. Owens and her sister, Connie Moggio, entered the courtroom together. Wheres the evidence that Patty was obsessed with Andy? Mr Freeman, Why are youre rude about others who disagree with your OPINION (including jury and appeal judges)? Patricia complied fully with the original investigation of the crime and wasnt a suspect because none of the blood or fingerprints found at the crime scene matched hers. In recent years, she began to share key details about her past life in Pittsburgh to nursing home staff that led them to investigate. Soon after, Kopta lost her job because she was seeing things and her behavior was disruptive, and then she began to walk the streets to spread her message. Jerry Browns office. Patricia Prue's lawyer Brian Marsicovetere told the court on Friday that his client was "severely mentally ill," and that the case should be used as an example for why the state should focus on developing a strong mental health system. This was a horrible and brutal double murder and whoever did it needs to be locked up forever. Locked up. And, why is it reasonable to believe lay people accept the jury verdict? Prue is currently serving a life sentence with the eventual opportunity for parole. Whatever the truth is. There was a push for a mistrial, but a 16-year prison sentence was negotiated instead. I agree. It makes me sick. Its true that women were more idiots than about men, they had the impression that if they caught a fool to take them as wives, they would settle for life, even today we see that but more diluted, still an exaggerated reason for murder. Pal stays true. Its never been made clear. Women murder for all kinds of reasons, but the simple facts come down to this.there was physical evidence, the bullet wound matched that of the gun Pat owned, the hairs were Pats and at both scenes, and she had no alibi and she had lied to try and come up with one.and lets not forget the damning words she spoke to her 18 month old daughter that the officer had the common sense to document. They theorize that Andrew Katrinak framed Patricia and that the hostile phone call between Patricia and Joann actually took place not on Dec. 12 as Andrew said but rather on Dec. 7. Patricia defaulted on her mortgage and then returned to North Carolina, where she eventually moved in with a boyfriend named Brian Ward. . Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. And its argued that it has been and dismissed as insignificant or irrelevant. Wouldnt that verify Troutmans claim that the husband was arguing with the victim, in a rage? At the trial, prosecutor Michael McIntyre alleged that Patricia remained obsessed with Andrew Katrinak long after their breakup despite testimony that shed had many boyfriends and live-in lovers to occupy her bandwidth. Her husband, Mark McCloskey, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor fourth degree assault and was fined $750. This FBI report, of the hairs being unable to yield a DNA result because of the absent root material, was never revealed to Rorrers defence. But to settle for just anyone being the offender offers no justice to the victims and certainly does no merit to those who are woefully lacking in ALL the details of this case, but nevertheless feel the need to vent their spleen on an innocent person. According to a Morning Call account from March 5, 1998: McIntyre leaned forward conspiratorially like someone trying to persuade another to tell a secret, lowered his voice and said: Heres what I want to know: After you killed Joann Katrinak, did you kill that baby or just leave it to die?. I had five children to take care of and it was costing me so much money to travel two hours Joanne didnt go missing until December 15, an entire week and a day later. Traupman claimed that when he reported the dispute, trooper Robert V. Egan III got mad and practically kicked him out of his office. We didnt expect it. A Texas father one of the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives wanted for the slayings of his two teen daughters was busted after more than 12 years on the run, the federal law enforcement agency announced. 2}Wo).hf}~g={g::y]peb78R,;>59_'cuB F4QyU&9G=#0 Forensic Files didnt mention it, but the hairs were actually brown at the top and the rest dyed blond, according to the show Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction. If I rolled my eyes any harder they might fall out. "I'm not sorry we were caught. And last but not least, the fact that Michael McIntyre comes across as mentally unstable. I decided to just plead guilty to get it over with.. Sadly, those who defend Rorrer do not want to be confused by the truth. And I hope I can get down to see her., Were very thankful to know that Patty is alive and well, Smith added. Allen and Patricia Prue were arrested two days after Jenkins' death. So where they alive somewhere, and if so how could of Patricia, who was questioned, with not one mark on her kill them? . Today, Patricia Lynne Rorrer resides in State Correctional Institute at Muncy, a medium and maximum security facility that has the highest rate of cancer of all prisons in Pennsylvania, according to a story from northcentralpa.com. Then international law enforcement was contacted. Im new to the case, but there seems to be a lot of reasonable doubt. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. Agree with all you say but theres so much more involving incompetence, corruption, evidence tampering and then witnesses, in Rorrers favour, who were not disclosed to her defence her trial (something they were legally obliged to do). Patrica Owens, Yaser Said's ex-wife, testified before the jury Thursday morning and said why she fled her home with her daughters only to return days before they were Phone records dont lie.) The fact that previous boyfriends noted her obsession with Andrew is very, very telling. (We didnt get into the specifics.). Curiously after this latest test, the 39 hairs removed only 34 were accounted for what became of the absent 4 hairs? You ought to acquaint yourself thoroughly with the case and not allow yourself to get any further elevated on your high horse. "Most of the community feels bad for the child To see that in the United States bugs me. I think Patricias defenders are implying the hair came from some unknown person. Marsicovetere cited studies done by several doctors during pretrial proceedings, saying that they determined Patricia Prue suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and might suffer from dissociative identity disorder as well. Follow her on Twitter at www.twitter.com/LizMurraySMC. You people are fighting a losing cause! She is 100% guilty seen 2 programs on this awful murder and read about it as well. It seems so, according to you. Black said she was glad Said took the witness stand, giving her the chance to poke holes in his story, exposing him to everyone who has been watching this case. It has very bad energy. Phone records confirmed Patricia placed the earlier call from North Carolina, not Pennsylvania. Most of all, Patricia said, she would like a rematch with prosecutor Michael McIntyre. Both were deceased. Youre right about my comments on other sites, but those seem to have an abundance of hate-mongers who feel no need to mince their words hence my retorts to those. The girls mother, Patricia Said, fled with both girls in the week before their killings because she was in great fear of her life, police said. Forensic tests suggested the hair found in the car and at the murder scene came from Patricia. Its nine minutes into the video. The FBI even included a written report to that effect. Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000, while Mark admitted to misdemeanor fourth-degree Why not question some of this evidence? Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. We lived close to one another. And she called 911. Feb 7, 2017 Patricia A. Giddings, seated beside Keeseville-based attorney Jacob Painter in Clinton County Court on Tuesday, spoke only to affirm she understood the proceedings. Youre so fixated with her guilt, youre unable to see other factors that show this case to be a disgraceful travesty. Plus a FB group that I was in included some people who grew up with her and they confirmed that she was indeed a horrible mean person who was easily enraged and always looking for a fight. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. I attack only those whove considered themselves not only judges on this case, but go on to vent their spleen aimed at a person who in my opinion is innocent of this crime, based on all Ive read and watched without fear of retaliation If they so freely attack someone in the most vicious way, why should they be off limits? I happen to be one of those deluded people youre so freely attempting to insult. Nataly is the lead writer on Curious Texas and a breaking news reporter. The teens were found shot multiple times in a cab outside an Irving motel after one of them called 911, saying she was dying, authorities said. According to the autopsy report, Patricias husband, Jerome Scott, had only a few months to live because of a health problem involving a bloodless liver and pancreatic fibrosis. Some people are just monsters. True, Andrew would have no way to acquire and plant Patricias blond hair there because it wasnt that color when she knew him. Stable situation. The Common Sense Guy you should put yourself on top of the list of deluded people. Theres speculation and theres lies period. Tommy Lynn Sells admitted to killing a 9-10 old boy in Indiana I think and the mom Julie (cant remember her last name) was jailed mainly due to the ex-husband (father of her son) testified and said things that werent true. Did you personally attend the trial? Patricia had a violent past and was absolutely positively the killer. Shes being well taken care of.. They need to test that hair from Joanns hand and also that broken fingernail. "Yaser Said, you're a devil. Rorrers defenders remind me of a case in my home town There was a killer who confessed, was caught on video committing the murder and was seen committing the crime by an eye witness. I made the confession on tape that I had rehearsed with the LAPD, said Larry Wright. "It's been an honor and privilege to stand up and be an advocate for Sarah. Most of your comment absolutely astonishes me. OK my GUESS is Patricia did do it! They were people that knew her, not Andrew. "It's been a long time coming for the family and the community," Warren said. Had there been a switch? No way they laid there for 4 months!!!! Or the ME and the entomologist that explained how impossible it would be for that baby and mother to be out there for four months, deceased at that, and still be as intact as they were, and the fact that the baby was double the size of a three month old child. She will be in jail for the rest of her life and rightly so. After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. The evidence was all there. The fat cow is guilty as hell and I hope she continues to have the shit kicked out of her in prison every day of her useless life. Ten months after Joann died he murdered another woman (who looks just like her) and her baby, as well. Instead of presenting hard facts, all I see are words and phrases that are purely speculative.. such as perhaps.
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